This episode originally appeared on the Kirsten Tyrrel Podcast, may it rest in peace. In creating the Marvelous podcast exactly how I want it to be, I am able to put all my thoughts and best interviews into this show instead of spreading myself across too many places! So now I’m down to just two podcasts. This one and Strategy Masters (where you can learn all things business strategy!)

Kate is a dear friend and we had this chat about a year ago. It was a big “aha” moment for me in realizing sometimes passion is priceless, and you may not know what you really want…until you get it and realize it’s not quite what you wanted. You’ll have to listen to understand!

Kate Call is one of the funniest people I know! She is so genuine, and what you see is what you get. Right now she finds a lot of fulfillment in being her true self on Instagram, where you should totally follow her by going here. She also has a pajamas line, that you can check out here!

I’m super excited to have Kate on the podcast. She has tons of gems of wisdom to share with you all, so I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did.